Young Thai Women and the Western Men Who Love Them
“I don’t understand the bars in Chiang Mai,” Xavier told me. ”Every time I walk by, the women try to get me to come in. Why do you think it is like that?”
“Well, it could be three things,” I replied. ”First, prostitutes. Second, ladyboys. Third, it could be like that scandal in Budapest where a woman has a guy buy her a drink and it turns out the drink costs $2,000 and then some scary men make you pay the whole bill.”
Xavier and I had met on the bus from Bangkok and discovered one of those amazing friendships that you can only have while traveling — within three hours, we had poured our hearts out and told each other our life stories! He was from Paris and spending a month in Thailand. Like me, he was at a major point of transition in his life and came to Thailand to heal before making some big life changes.
And — because so many of you have already asked — no, it was not romantic whatsoever! We were just buds, and that was perfect.
Another French friend of ours, whom I’ll call T, invited us to Number One Bar that night. This bar was in an area east of the old city, where young Thai women pair off with older Western men. You see this throughout Thailand and quite a bit in Chiang Mai, and it can be difficult to take.
It’s tough because I consider myself a sex-positive person. If two (or more) parties are happy in their arrangement, an arrangement that is both consensual and legal, I’m all for it.
For those seeking long-term relationships, I can understand completely. These men obviously don’t want a Western wife or girlfriend. They want someone young, pretty, and submissive. The women want financial security and an easier life. And few relationships don’t involve transactions of some kind, anyway.
But seeing it first-hand creeps me out nonetheless. Especially when the men talk to them like they’re children.
T was playing pool with a Thai girl, and Xavier and I joined in. After watching the interactions throughout the bar, I think I learned quite a bit:
How to flirt with a Western man:
- Wear short shorts and high heels.
- Have a girly cocktail and keep ordering him big bottles of Singha.
- Pretend to be horrible at pool, then be secretly awesome at it.
- Giggle incessantly before and after every shot.
- Fling yourself into his arms whenever pleased or embarrassed.
T was a good-looking 24-year-old guy. In fact, his girl was a few years older than him. I don’t know why he ended up in one of these bars. Maybe he just wanted an easy hookup.
At one point, another Thai girl joined us, I assume to put the moves on Xavier. Which I found strange. Although he and I weren’t a couple, most people assumed we were. Then I realized that I was the only Western woman in the bar and probably had no idea how things worked here. Yikes.
“Is she trying to seduce you?” I whispered to Xavier.
“She needs to try more hard,” he replied.
After endless rounds of pool, we decided to move elsewhere. We piled onto two motorbikes — Xavier and T on one, me and the girls on the other — and zoomed through the streets of Chiang Mai, our long hair whipping each other in the face, giggling like crazy.
We actually had a great night out, and the girls were a lot more fun than I originally thought. That said, I could tell that the girls thought I was the fifth wheel, so I excused myself around 1 and headed back to my guesthouse.
Do I still find this older Western man/young Thai woman culture creepy? Yes. But after seeing two twenty-something Thai girls go after two twenty-something French guys, much of it isn’t any different from what you’d see in your local bar on a Friday night.
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Age plays very little part of it. You’re into bar girls aka quasi prostitutes or not. Also most guys that get involved in these relationships long term end up broke. As a guy who talks to guys of all ages and lives in an apartment complex resembling an old folks home… Trust me.
The girls don’t care much what a guy looks like I have concluded as well they are working. That whole area where you were if it was near Tae Pai Gate is sleaze city. Walk down the street late night and lots of street walkers as well.
Want the “FULL experience” Go to Spicy after the bar one night. You’ll find it hilarious and disgusting.
That said, been in Thailand off and on for over 4 months, every once and a while I still find it creepy too.
Rob, I’m so glad we went to Spicy last night and got to experience the brothel/dance club scene first hand! It was so odd but a lot of fun!
OMG! Spicy…… horrible horrible. I lasted 5sec there. Lindsay calls it Vomitville.
LMAO! I’m not surprised! Honestly, I thought it was kind of fun!
Same same over here in Udon Thani. When I first came here, it was pretty creepy. Actually it is still. Not quite sure if I will ever get used to it. Don’t like the typical old ‘Farang`hanging out with young Thai girls. Even though my colleagues already make fun of me when we go out by saying ‘Sascha, wait 30 more years – then you’ll come back and do the same’
This sounds like a normal night at a bar in LA, just with less Asian girls.
I’m taking bets on when you’ll succumb to the annoying, incessant giggling of Thai girls. I say two more weeks, and then you too will find yourself giggling for no apparent reason. Three weeks until you’re doing it in your sleep.
Honestly, considering how you start imitating the behavior of those you are with, I could see it happening!
The girl/men scene in Bangkok would be hard to take, I think. You say the men don’t want Western wives or girlfriends. However, I think the men probably have Western wives or girlfriends and want a side dish.
I”ve never seen anything like this, at least not on the scale you describe. Maybe I’ll head to Thailand next to check it out – or not
You know, Sabina, that could be possible — but how would they get away with a solo trip to Thailand or many solo trips to Thailand while married? Business, yes, but most people don’t get to go to Thailand for business!
Kate,
Your naivity is showing! Men can get away with loads of things – they can say they are traveling on business which makes them switch planes in Thailand or a myriad of excuses.
My girlfriend’s husband was spending tons of time going to ‘China’ but really was in NY with his girlfriend – my friend never bothered to check his passport (which he kept at the office, ha ha) until it was too late.
There have been tons of documented accounts of American men going to Thailand to be with young women and even getting arrested for trying to buy young girls and many are married. It’s so vile and way under-reported!
Be careful out there girl!
Have a great rest of your trip – there are so many positive places to see and things to do! Now you’ve seen the creepiest, go see the best!
Cheers!
Sorry but generalizing never helps. It’s a dirty overused cliche.
In the place I live, I see many many old expats with younger women. Should I assume they are all creepy people cheating on their wives?
Luckily most of them are not very discrete and speak loudly so I can hear it: They are usually married to younger Thai ladies.
They don’t have western women, they don’t cheat on anybody. They just wanted younger beautiful women to spend the rest of their lives with!
It’s easier in Thailand to find a younger person than in the Western world where people would point fingers and label you as a creepy man.
The Western world is not very open minded..
My bad, the fact that some are cheating is irrelevent in the exploitation of women. The cheating aspect for some is just an added negative on already creepy behavior.
We might be splitting hairs on the whole age difference – but what I dislike is when women feel that their only option to get out of bad times is to marry someone for money who is much older than they are then it’s creepy. Not on the part of the women with no choice, but on the part of the men who are either looking for a fountain of youth or are just plain unable to socialize appropriately with women who are in a range that would enable them to have a normal relationship.
It’s kinda like porn, you can’t define it, but you know it when you see it.
I wouldn’t say Kate is naive at all – just not prone to generalizing and being overly judgmental. Of course there are ‘bad’ men, and ‘bad’ women and sometimes people are bastards. But there are lots of people with good intentions too. I would hate to wander around the world looking at it through a lens that assumes everyone is always doing something shady.
Sorry, Kate knows that I was teasing about her being naive! She is far from that – she’s a wordly Boston chick!
I am not overly judgemental – but I do judge as all people do about what feels right and wrong. Every situation needs to be evaluated on it’s own merit for sure. I try to not take things too seriously such as the late Anna Nicole and her late 90 year old husband, but I also detest the exploitation of women and especially young women or girls with no perceived options. I judge those situations to be BAD – I do NOT always assume everyone is shady or those who disagree with me are judgemental – that would be judgemental.
Keepin’ it light!
P.S. Where in the world is the place where young men go after old ladies? I have three girlfriends whose husbands died pre-maturely and I am wondering where they will meet their 20 year junior?
LOL!
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I hear you lady! Sorry if I came off overly bitchy or judgmental in my original response to you. It is a complicated issue – one I really struggle with not gagging a bit over too.
Oh, and the place where young men go after old ladies – I believe it’s called Beverly Hills.
Hi Priscilla,
That will be Turkey. I lived by there for a year and a half close to a holiday resort. It is a favourite place for divorced women to go for a fling with some one younger.
Like with many men in Thailand/Phillipines it often ends up with someone losing a lot of money. Though there are of course exceptions there are now many happily married couples in Turkey and Thailand. Don’t know what the divorce rate is but its pretty high in the UK/US anyway.
Yes, Turkey is the place for women to find younger men. As in Thailand, it’s often (though certainly not always) about money. I frequently see German women aged 50-70 with Turkish men in their 20s, especially men who came from the East (where there are no jobs) to make their fortune in tourism. Some work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week as waiters; others move in with wealthy ladies instead. I’ll admit though, I had a fling with a much younger man (we are stll friends), and money had nothing to do with it. Sometimes these things just happen.
It’s sad that these men would want someone submissive and young. My mother always taught me that weak men go after weak women. A real man can be with a strong, independent woman with a brain. A weak man goes for someone he can feel superior too. Ugh, that kinda grosses me out and I really don’t care if I sound judgmental. There are just some things that are wrong, and your initial reaction was right on.
I absolutely believe that, Colleen. Weak men go after weak women. A guy I dated a few years ago comes to mind. He was a waiter and insecure (but HOT — oh god, so hot, and I was crazy about him). He broke up with me by text message (!!) and he’s now married to a hostess at the same restaurant. I KNEW he couldn’t marry anyone with a better career than him!
Craig and I went into one of these bars in Phuket on our honeymoon. We would sit at the bar together and play connect 4. Sometimes we would play against the bar ladies. We would laugh at the way they completely ignored me and flirted like crazy with Craig. It was so obvious that he was taken but they didn’t care. The pink neon bars really creep me out too, but you can have fun there and it is a cultural experience.
And THIS is why I need to meet you and Craig and hang out with you. You guys are hilarious!! COME TO THAILAND! I know you’re dying to come back!
There’s a documentary called Bangkok Girl up on Youtube. Pretty interesting.
There are always two sides to the coin. It might be shocking to see this scenario first hand, but it is a reality of life and in many cases it benefits both parties. In other cases it doesn’t. Great observations Kate and I’m glad I happened upon your blog via my dear friend Sabina whom I’m going to visit in Sharjah this weekend.
I agree it’s creepy. But so is Hugh Hefner and all his girlfriends who are young enough to be his granddaughter. Is it really so different in this country? If a guy is rich enough, it doesn’t matter how old he is, what a jerk he is, or how unattractive he is, chances are good he will be able to find a hot young thing to agree to marry him, because she’s going to see it as her ticket to easy street.
I love that there is an ad for FilipinoCupid.com for me on this page. Certainly makes me appreciate my strong, smart woman even more! Looks like you’re having some fun, Kate.
That’s very sweet, Mark.
I’m glad you’ve been following the blog!
I’m loving reading about your SE Asia adventures Kate. We’re heading there January 3rd (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Thailand) and I’m seriously taking notes from you!
Ahhh that TOTALLY creeped me out in Thailand. At 1st I tried to ignore it and then I just got angry (talking about the men here). PS Still don’t believe you were only just “friends!” Wink wink…
Great story! I like the fact that you wrote it specifically to “kill” the myth that every single Asian girl is after Western men to make money. Sometimes, they’re just human too. Plus, they’re from a very strict part of this world and sometimes do not know how to interact with easygoing people.
What a cool (and weird) experience. My husband and I are mixed race… sometimes I wonder if even people here (in the US) see us in that whole “submissive asian woman” light… I bet my husband sometimes wishes it were true… :p
Thailand might explode if the Old Spice man would go visit.
I’ve seen a lot of this kind of interaction in Thailand, the Philippines, Vietnam, also Indonesia… Sometimes I find it funny. Sometimes I find it sad. Sometimes it’s both.
A lot of these girls have very hard lives (many of them have young children they’ve left behind to pursue what is, effectively, quasi-prostitution). And many of the men are looking not just for a young, quick lay but for a type of submissive femininity that they find more easily in Asia than in the West…
I guess the difference between what happens in this kind of bar and what happens in the average Western bar, and what still makes it feel a bit sad and weird for me, is the dynamic of power and money. That any man on a Western income can be a prince in a Thai bar, and buy women to seem interested in him.
And that for a lot of bright, beautiful girls in Asia, in countries where MacDonalds (for example) hires only college graduates to work behind the counter, the best way to make a living is this kind of transactional deal. Which, as a woman, I find rather sad.
This is a really thoughtful comment Theodora. Thank you for articulating this so well. I’m uncomfortable with the situation too but was having trouble articulating it. You did it beautifully.
I agree with most of what you have experienced in thailand about the girls.but i have 2 yr old søn to a 22 yr old girl .i am in england working sending 3000 bht e.w while the ex is working 12hrs a day getting
Theodora, thanks for an excellent comment.
I agree with you about the dynamics of power and money. While they are exchanged in just about every relationship that there is, there’s something so odd about any Western man immediately having unlimited power here.
But still, I’d rather be in one of those bars with guys looking for companions than hanging out with sex tourists. Pretty sure I sat next to one on the flight from Seoul. Creeped me out.
I’m a relatively young guy (25) who has been living in Thailand with my girlfriend (27) for a little over 2 years. I agree that there is something very creepy about seeing an old, hairy white man with an 18-year-old girl on his arm but at the same time, if they’re happy together with whatever symbiosis they have going on, who the hell am I to judge them? Live and let live. It’s surely an interesting phenomenon but I can think of much worse things occurring around the world right now.
Try as you might to shape a society – you will never change human nature. Men crave young, beautiful women and poor people invariably crave wealth. If that is disgusting to you then I suggest you go live on Mars.
Thailand are a nation who have access to Western technology and advancements but as a society, they are stuck 50 years in the past (comparatively). Your parents and/or grandparents were probably much more open to the idea of the man in a relationship being the “provider” and the woman taking care of the family. Biology and a couple of million years of evolution is pretty open to that idea too.
Don’t be so fast to trample on old values in your attempts to appear modern and liberated. I know it looks odd from a typical western viewpoint but from a Thai viewpoint it’s actually reasonably normal (yes – even among civilised people).
Most western women would class and old, fat, balding guy as “out of their league” and think the idea of making money a first consideration for choosing a mate to be tainted and “immoral”. However try working in the blistering sun for 12 hours a day for 200 Baht and I think your view might change pretty rapidly.
Western women no longer have to worry about finding a provider (what with childcare, washing machines, dishwashers, a comfortable salary etc.) and as such, their criteria for selecting a partner have become akin to selecting fashion accessories.
Find me a single, old western guy who doesn’t dream to have a young, beautiful wife and that man is the oddity, not the sexpats in Thailand (as creepy as they appear).
Excellent reply Ryan.
I have an Asian girlfriend in the US who is older than I am, and smarter than I am (with a Masters Degree), but she looks 10 years younger than me.
We sometimes have to deal with the stereotyping & generalizations that I hear from some of these comments, and it’s pretty annoying.
There are plenty of bars in Miami where older women and younger men hook up. It’s not weird, its human nature.
There will always be a percentage of older, wealthy individuals that lust for (and spend money on) youth. It has nothing to do with gender. Haven’t any of you women been to a male strip club? I’ll bet you’ll go a lot more when you’re older.
This is an interesting discussion and I’ve learned a lot from both sides here.
My concern with the the young SE Asian girl, old Western guy thing is that it doesn’t seem to happen occasionally – as in, some older women go to strip clubs, or some men have girl friends who look younger than them but aren’t – but seems very much systematically ingrained here.
I’ve spent quite a bit of time in Laos (where this kind of activity is illegal, but happens all the time anyway) and it’s actually the behavior of the older men that bugs me more than the young women. I can understand why a Lao girl might see an opportunity in a Western man – I get her motivation and don’t think less of her for it. I can also understand why an older Western guy might want a young, more compliant girlfriend. But over and over again I’ve also experienced these Western guys treating the girls here like chattel. Get me this, do that – one Western pub owner with a Lao wife talking about how you need three Lao people to equal the brain power of one person from the West – IN FRONT OF HER (and yes, she understands English and no she didn’t laugh). This is stuff you see and hear first hand, all the time here – it’s not rare, or infrequent.
Yes these are anecdotal examples and there are probably lots of men who treat their girlfriends and wives with respect (and plenty of people in the West who treat their Western partners badly) – but the difference is that here this behavior is ingrained into the system. It happens a lot and everyone has accepted it to be normal and okay. At least in the West men men have to answer for this kind of behavior and women often have support networks they can go to if things get out of hand. In Lao, there are no structures in place to protect these girls and women or anything in place to keep the behavior of these guys in check. I can’t speak for what goes on in Thailand, things might be completely different over there. I don’t know.
This isn’t an argument of percentages. It’s an argument about socially ingrained power hierarchies – even with a Western man at their side, these women are still very often marginalized and treated with little respect by people who should really know better.
What you are talking about stems from the strict social hierarchy they have in Laos and most other South-East Asian countries. The subservient wives you are talking about believe in this system and respect it for what it is.
It may look outrageous to you and you may be of the opinion that Laos is desperately in need of a Women’s Rights movement but it works for them just fine. Much the same as it worked for human beings everywhere in the world up until 100 or so years ago.
If it makes you feel any better, much of Thailand has already shunned these old values and Laos probably isn’t too far behind.
I don’t think the Western guys you see are exploiting the financial status of these women – they are just integrating with a system that has been in place long before they ever jumped off the plane. The only reason the Western guys stand out to you is that you probably don’t speak Laos (or Laotian if you prefer). Also Laos guys probably have enough class to beat their wives in private (joke – don’t lynch me).
Personally I would be shot if I tried to treat my girlfriend like this and most people in urban centers in Thailand are much the same. However most rural communities still have a real need for a hierarchy and unfortunately women usually rank lower than men — although you can blame Biology for that, not society.
Ryan, I find it interesting that you feel like you’re in a position to speak for the subservient wives (“The subservient wives you are talking about believe in this system and respect it for what it is.”). In the 50s people liked to think that Western women as a whole enjoyed their traditional home maker roles but actually, many women did not. I suspect you’d find similar sentiments if you were to dig beneath the surface of how SE Asian women really feel about some of the traditional roles imposed on them, especially in the face of all the Western culture that has been imported here by us travelers. They dress Western, many speak English, they listen to Western music and watch Western television, but when it comes to their rights as human beings, we expect them to act traditional? Lets also not forget that this entire paradigm of Western guys with money coming to SE Asia is not a traditional cultural phenomenon and the power structures that develop as a result are anything but ingrained by hundreds of years of practice. It’s a very modern phenomenon.
I do speak a bit of Laotian and have spent some time with a few of the girls here. I’ve found the Laos girls and women (even the prostitutes) really lovely and friendly – maybe they don’t see me as competition
. In my experience they mostly have the same hopes and dreams as people everywhere – they want to be loved, treated nicely, be able to fulfill their dreams (some of them want to be doctors and scientists – some want to open up their own businesses and yes, some dream of getting married to a nice man and having kids) and not have to worry about where their next meal is coming from. The Western guys aren’t acting like jerks out of deference to traditional cultural values, they are acting this way because they can get away with it. Again, I recognize that some Western guys are great and treat women from all backgrounds well – but that doesn’t reduce the fact that it’s common and socially acceptable here for them to do the opposite mainly because they have the money and with it, the power.
Horrible things happen to women around the world in the name of tradition and culture – I’m sorry if I’m too modern or ‘women’s rights-y’ but I don’t think something is acceptable because it’s always been done. Forced female circumcision, government led denial of education for women, the literal selling off of young female children to older men by their fathers, the refusal to let women drive or work in some parts of the Middle East … all done in the name of traditional cultural values. It’s just not good enough.
If you spent your time in Vientiane or Louang Prabang etc. you might be inclined to believe that life in Laos is reasonably modern and westernized. However, that is far from true in the other 95% of Laos.
Hopes and dreams are irrelevant when you have to quit school after a total 4 years in education (as opposed to maybe 6) so that you can help your family work the rice fields. That’s a reality for the vast majority of Laos people.
Any “modern” and “westernised” girls you have seen have almost certainly been made that way by their western partners and they afford that modern image with the money they are given by them.
This is not an assumption made from a few casual conversations with Laos people – it’s knowledge imparted from Laos people I have lived with for many months.
I know it’s easy to pretend to understand something, having just glanced at the surface but women’s rights are the least of Laos’ problems.
“Like all travelers, Twain and his companion think they understand everything but usually find out (too late) that they actually understand nothing at all.”
Wow! I appreciate that you took time out to dig up a Twain quote though apart from the blog title, it doesn’t really say much about what I do or do not understand about Lao or Lao culture. Maybe I lived in rural Laos for six months in my last year of university as part of a cultural exchange program many years ago. Would that give my opinion greater weight to you? Do I really need to list my credentials here for you to show any respect for an opinion that differs from yours? We could go on with the pissing contest – I could even try to find a clever quote to try and insult you – but I doubt we’d come to any kind of agreement. It’s really convenient for you to try to read something into who I am because unlike you, I’ve not posted here anonymously.
For the record, I don’t pretend to understand everything – perhaps you need to take a step back and admit the same. I also don’t think that addressing the complex land mine of women’s rights issues will solve all of the problems in this country – but it’s a start. With your attitude we would never begin anywhere. You try to enact positive changes in your way, and I’ll do the same in mine. If you’re trying to improve the lot of other people, I can’t imagine a situation in which I’d tell you it’s a waste of time.
I understand that there are cultural differences between rural and urban parts of any country – my own included. Of course urban areas are more Westernized – that’s not much of a revelation. And for the record, I wasn’t only referring to women and girls being influenced by Western culture – the men are as well. My point, which you seem to have missed, is that we tend to import our culture where it is convenient for us, but when it comes to women’s rights (and probably a lot of other things) we’re still relatively quick to throw up our hands and say – ah, well that’s the traditional male/female dynamic in this country.
And dude, hopes and dreams are never irrelevant – no matter where you are or what you’re doing. Poor, rural people have aspirations too – you don’t need to have more than a four year education to imagine what you hope will come out of your life. And finally, if you conduct your conversations with these people you claim to know so well with the same assumption-based lack of respect you’ve just shown to me, I highly doubt you heard anything about them that wasn’t immediate obvious to you with your innate knowledge and cleverness.
I stand corrected – you did not take the time to dig up a Twain quote – you just pulled it from the about page of my website.
Perhaps I’m jaded by the large number of travellers I’ve met, who seem to become overnight experts of every country they have ever passed through. The only thing that led me to believe this of you was the fact that rural Laos has barely even been touched by westernisation and is in very stark contrast to places like Vientiane.
Yes I know what they say about assumptions.
Anyway my point wasn’t that Laos people don’t deserve hopes and dreams, it was that until these dreams have much chance of being realised, the hierarchy they have in place still has a very real purpose. I’m sure the bone-breaking manual labour most Laos people endure every day is much worse than a few harsh words from their husbands. That’s not to say it’s ok or acceptable in the grand scheme, just pretty low on their list of priorities.
Of course, many more fortunate (and creepy) western men will take advantage of this to a point but it’s not entirely because they are “jerks”.
I had to revisit this thread to make my first comment.
I’m pretty shocked that there are so many that take such a blase attitude towards the exploitation of poor SE asian women. I first read this thread a month ago and saw Michaels comment from November 8th.
Since then, I’ve watched 4 documentaries on youtube regarding poor Thai women who hook up with western men and I have to say that these videos are some of the most depressing things I’ve ever encountered.
I’ll be going to Thailand myself in the spring and I guarantee that as a middle-aged white male, not only will I NOT hook up with any thai women, I’ll instead tell them about the “western” culture that they are so enthralled with. I’ll be sure to let them know that most of what they see it fake and that our western culture is a fake debt ridden cesspool and that they’d be better off back on the farm with a Thai husband their age regardless of the dynamics in the relationship.
I guess that’s just how I feel having a shitload of empathy combined with a degree in economics.
Just my 2c.
Reading all these comments regarding older men and younger women. Interesting stuff.
I am forty three and spent last summer in Chiang Mai. When I was twenty three I could not afford to be a brattish expat and spend one week in Chiang Mai on a ‘hippy trail’ travelling Asia because mummy and daddy had given me money to ‘see the world.’
My holiday was Glastonbury. It lasted three days.
I totally got sick of the expat brats travelling in and around Chiang Mai. ‘You don’t want to go there mate! You want to go to Vang Vieng!’ – nice intellectual stuff.
I suppose being in the middle age bracket I got a view on both life styles. But I do know younger people bitch more and feel more self-righteous.
Do any of those posting know the local wages of the bar girls? I don’t even mean the girls who work serving drinks. They don’t have any safety net.
Yes when the age difference is extreme is severe it does look bad. My hero happens to be Edward James Olmos – Blade Runner – he seems happy with a much younger woman.
The author of this website should try and live in Pattaya.
Enjoy